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Post by bloodrose on Jul 7, 2008 19:19:08 GMT -5
Any of you fellas played one of these??? Im itching for an amp upgrade.. There are a bunch of amps Id love to have but none I can afford.
Bogner Ecstasy
EVH ( which Ive heard are having reliability issues)
Engl Powerball
Fender Prosonic (maybe)
Soldano SLO
But I also love what Ive heard of the Quickrods and the Kerry King marshalls.
I love the old 80s tones of hotrodded marshalls and stock ones dont cut it.. I like that hollow woody tone like in Strypers The Way solo...
So whatcha think
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Post by gmello on Jul 7, 2008 23:37:13 GMT -5
Splawns are basically Hot Rodded Marshalls, which mean you have to play them LOUD to get the best out of them Are you gigging now? Playing with a band?? If you're not, forget it, it is not worth it.
What is your current amp? What's missing on it??
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Post by bloodrose on Jul 8, 2008 6:08:06 GMT -5
Im still running the Peavey Ultra Plus and Carvin MTS 4x12. Its not a bad sounding amp, but I cant get that Woody open hollow tone out of it that I love so much. I love that tone like on Strypers to Hell with the Devil album and many 80s metal records and I know I cant play a Marshall wide open like that.. So, most marshalls disappoint me. My amp is more modern gain I think. I end up playing with alot more distortion than I should because thats my favorite tone from this amp.. Ive tried bumping the mids on the crunch channel and its not the same. I can come get a hint of it when I use my Kramer Focus, but only a hint. Ive tried PAF pups and other different ones. Any tips ? If I could get that without dropping that kinda money, Id be stoked.  |
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Post by Ray M. on Jul 8, 2008 7:42:17 GMT -5
I keep tellin' ya.... EL84... Marshall tone without earbleed. These are a little pricey though....  |
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Post by gmello on Jul 8, 2008 7:43:19 GMT -5
I have an Ultra Plus too. Great amp. You CAN get the tone you want out of it, but you would have to lower the gain AND turn up the master volume considerably. Use the 60w setting. Set the master volume to 10 and use the channels volume to control the overall loudness. But that gets painfully loud quickly.
The tone you're talking about is very dependent on power amp distortion and unfortunately there is no way to get it from any amp other than turning it way up.
I also have a DSL50 and that amp sounds better than most of my other amps at a low volume. Maybe you should look into getting one, they're not so expensive.
Perhaps a good attenuator would help you more than a new amp.
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Post by gmello on Jul 8, 2008 7:46:25 GMT -5
What Ray said, about amps with EL84s, is also true. I think EL84s are the best tubes for people looking for crunch at a lower volume. You can convert a "big bottle" amp to EL84's using the THD Yellow Jackets or just buy a EL84 amp like the one Ray posted.
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Post by bloodrose on Jul 8, 2008 16:46:46 GMT -5
Thats sure sharp Ray!!  Whats the damage for something like that?? Im NOT opposed to EL84s.. My PV CLassic 30 has em and sounds great. It just isnt heavy enough.. I get a great slash/creamy/classic tone from it. Funny, I played a new slash epi at GC the other day and it sounded like playing thru my Classic 30 since I put the Private jack in it. G, didnt know you had one of those.. Yeah, I stumbled on that a few weeks ago. I always dimed the channel volumes and put on the master a tiny bit. One day I thought " I need to push the pre amp" and did it the other way.. MUCH better. Im wondering if a tube change would get me closer?? I still have stockers from 2002. I know when I put JJs in my Classic, it was night /day.. Ive thought about a hot plate.. Just didnt know if it would really work .. Alot of money for an experiment.. |
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Post by Ray M. on Jul 8, 2008 19:04:08 GMT -5
www.reinhardtamps.com/files/The18.htmlbut seriously....puts a biiiiiggggggg smile on my face!! I have a couple of mods on mine though. tone stack delete (pure everthang), and another boost thingy that you would love. Bob Reinhardt, is awesome. He will make it work for you. Plus any tolex finish you want...his wife is awesome at that stuff..... ...just sayin'.
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Post by gmello on Jul 8, 2008 19:09:16 GMT -5
yeah I have one, not my best amp (that would be the Mesa Mark III) but it's certainly the most versatile so I use it a lot.
I don't think tubes will make that much of a difference in this case. Maybe if you buy Groove Tubes that have a low rating (for earlier breakup). But even that will still be loud.
A good attenuator is one of the best investments you will ever make. Everyone who play big tube amps should have one. You can't crank the amp to 10 and attenuate it until it's at bedroom level, it doesn't sound good like that.
But you can attenuate it to, say, half volume and have a much more usable volume pot. I can't live without mine.
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Post by bloodrose on Jul 9, 2008 6:10:31 GMT -5
Whats a good attenuator? Hot plate??
I like my ultra plus. get some good tones from it, but just not getting "that" sound I hear that I want to be getting.
I like the tone of a 6505 too, but I dont wany only that one sound all the time.
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Post by bloodrose on Jul 9, 2008 6:12:22 GMT -5
www.reinhardtamps.com/files/The18.htmlbut seriously....puts a biiiiiggggggg smile on my face!! I have a couple of mods on mine though. tone stack delete (pure everthang), and another boost thingy that you would love. Bob Reinhardt, is awesome. He will make it work for you. Plus any tolex finish you want...his wife is awesome at that stuff..... ...just sayin'. Is yours an 18?? |
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Post by Ray M. on Jul 9, 2008 7:55:33 GMT -5
yep...
mine's an 18.
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Post by gmello on Jul 9, 2008 20:13:00 GMT -5
Whats a good attenuator? Hot plate?? I like my ultra plus. get some good tones from it, but just not getting "that" sound I hear that I want to be getting. I like the tone of a 6505 too, but I dont wany only that one sound all the time. The Hot Plate is great but too pricey. The Weber MASS is just as good and costs a lot less. I currently have a Mass Lite 100w and I love it. I had a 5150 for a while and I prefer the Ultra over the 5150. |
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Post by Rob DiStefano on Aug 11, 2008 4:28:52 GMT -5
Splawn Quickrod? I'll counter with Toad the Sprocket.  What Ray sez - EL84's are the sh!t for low volume name-that-tone. |
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